@19jrob46 Thank you incredibly much!
@astrosnat
Ex-STS towards metascience and reproducibility
sciencebetting.com$225 in pending offers
I have a physics background and researched the social and cultural norms of UK space science over the past 50 years.
I'm working on creating a real-money prediction market for science replication.
Osnat Katz Moon
17 days ago
I've checked out your site, I think you have great UI and UX. I love that you're open-source and I appreciate your transparency. So I very much want PlayMoney to succeed
Osnat Katz Moon
17 days ago
I think this is cool and beautiful and I look forward to seeing more of Calibration City
Osnat Katz Moon
18 days ago
@wasabipesto Hi! To answer your questions:
brierfoxforecast.com does represent the current state of development, I also set up my own instance at openprediction.xyz. Development is ongoing, we're still pushing changes, etc.
possible use cases for running an independent instance rather than using an established server include: privacy and data protection concerns, wanting to have a fallback solution in case something happens to the established server, wanting to have software that an admin can tinker with and configure for different use cases, wanting to have software that's performant on lower-end machines
our feature set includes the ability for admins to customize their own setup, decide how much market making should cost, and how much debt a user should be allowed to get into: https://github.com/openpredictionmarkets/socialpredict/blob/main/README/README-CONFIG.md
down the line we'd love to implement variable economics, but at the moment this is lower priority than backend improvements
it's intended to be deployed in the cloud, but yes, you can run a local dev instance on your machine. I run a local dev instance on an old laptop with 8 GB of RAM and Ubuntu 22.04 and it's highly performant. My staging instance at openprediction.xyz uses a virtual machine with 4GB RAM and an 80 GB hard drive. These are some load tests we did 3 weeks ago: https://github.com/openpredictionmarkets/socialpredict/issues/227
though of course we're on a new version of the software now, which means more and different load tests, so thank you for the reminder
Osnat Katz Moon
5 months ago
@Alyssa the problem is that preexisting real-money prediction-market platforms have their own troubles. To the best of my knowledge, there are 2: Kalshi and Polymarket.
Kalshi is great but has run into regulatory issues with the CTFC, IIRC. Polymarket uses crypto. The intersection of "people who care enough about science to forecast about it" and "people who use crypto" is small. I'm trying to target a bigger market of "people who care enough about science to forecast about it". In an ideal world, I would persuade Betfair - the world's largest online betting exchange - to start taking bets on paper replication, because that seems much easier than creating a new prediction-market platform.
My hunch is that some of the troubles faced by prediction-market platforms arise from them focusing on US customers, and that expanding to Canadian, UK, EU, Chinese markets would help.
Osnat Katz Moon
6 months ago
@Jason Thanks. This has given me a lot to think about. Hoping to start getting users for a play money version ~May-June, and to talk to some UK research funders about the possibility of using prediction markets to help inform funding decisions, so we will see what happens then.
Osnat Katz Moon
6 months ago
@Elizabeth unfortunately, yes. There are a couple of ways around this:
1) decide "we're going to be an offshore gambling platform", grit my teeth, and go with the fairly tough but doable process of getting a gambling license or applying to be on someone else's gambling license; doesn't work for the US, means a greater focus on targeting non-US markets (e.g. Canada)
2) if you have an organization stump up a cash pool first and then participants in the org can bet, this has fewer legal difficulties (specifically, it doesn't count as gambling any more), but you also have a product aimed at organizations rather than individuals (internal prediction markets do seem to work where they've been tried, though!)
Osnat Katz Moon
6 months ago
@astrosnat OK I have my little update from a brief call with Marcel. Some thoughts:
- My understanding is that part of the bottleneck is that the intersection between "makes news headlines" and "has enough people forecasting/has enough liquidity in the market" can be smaller than ideal
- Integration between metaforecast + seeing what people are talking about on social media is not easy
IMO these are solvable problems. So looking forward to seeing where BRT goes in the future
Osnat Katz Moon
6 months ago
@saulmunn Hi Saul - how did your meeting with Marcel go? Would be interested in hearing your thoughts about BRT
Osnat Katz Moon
6 months ago
More thoughts from me:
BRT is really interesting, and I want to see + learn more
I also booked a call with Marcel on March 13, and will update
Osnat Katz Moon
6 months ago
@PatrickDelaney Awesome stuff, just checked it out now! Yes, let's talk more. My email is osnatkatz at protonmail dot com
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